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Unlock the astonishing truth hidden within the code of life itself. Could DNA, the digital masterpiece inside every living thing, be the ultimate evidence of divine design? If you're skeptical about science and faith coexisting, this episode will challenge everything you've ever believed.Former atheist and MIT graduate Arthur Douglas Ell spent decades wrestling with the contradictions between science and spirituality—until he uncovered undeniable evidence pointing to a Creator. From the intricate design of DNA to the fine-tuned constants of the universe, Douglas reveals how recent scientific discoveries scream one thing: intelligent design is real. You’ll discover how DNA's complex digital code rivals the most advanced human computer systems, and why the laws of physics seem painstakingly calibrated for life.We break down the groundbreaking ENCODE Project’s findings, the misconceptions about the age of the universe, and how dinosaurs—yes, dinosaurs—are proof of a relatively young Earth. Douglas discusses how the Bible’s account of creation aligns with scientific evidence, and why many resist accepting the obvious. Plus, he shares pragmatic reasons why understanding these truths is vital—not just for faith, but for our moral compass and worldview today.If you've ever wondered where God fits into the universe’s grand design or whether science supports Scripture, this episode is essential listening. Douglas’s compelling journey from doubt to conviction will inspire you to see the Creator behind the cosmos—and realize that the evidence has been there all along.Perfect for skeptics, believers, and curious minds alike—don’t miss this eye-opening exploration into the science that points straight to God.About Arthur Douglas: A former attorney, MIT graduate, and scientific researcher, Douglas combines rigorous analysis with heartfelt faith, dedicated to sharing the profound evidence of divine creation.Why this works:
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00:00 - Host Intro And Sponsor
00:50 - Guest Background And Credentials
02:04 - From Atheist To Believer
03:47 - Big Bang And First Doubts
05:58 - Why Smart People Resist God
09:26 - DNA As Digital Code
13:59 - Design, Probability, And Proteins
16:29 - God Outside Time And Creation
18:37 - Seven Wonders And Fine Tuning
22:16 - Teaching Origins In Schools
23:27 - Making The Case With Gentleness
25:01 - Young Earth Claims And Dating
27:46 - Dinosaurs, Flood, And History
32:26 - Closing Encouragement And CTAs
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Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on another episode of the Dorsey US.
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So today's podcast is sponsored by Audary Audio Group which inspires an update through discussions, testimonies, and teachings, equipping listeners for meaningful conversations.
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On today's episode we have author Douglas Hell, who is a former atheist, spent over thirty years reconciling science and God, scientific evidence for his beliefs.
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Doug grew up in Connecticut, graduated early from MIT, and later obtained a master's in theoretical mathematics.
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After law school, he became a prominent attorney, drafting the first 401k plan in professional sports and representing corporations, unless and pensions plans.
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As a lawyer, Douglas learned a gift through competing arguments and consider different perspective skills to now use to understand the complex relationship between science and religion.
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His legal training, academic science background, and independent study has given him a unique perspective on science, religion, and philosophy.
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Doug, thank you so much for coming on the show today.
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Absolutely.
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I have a um question for you.
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How do you go, if you can give us a little bit about your background and about your life, how did you go from an atheist who does not believe in God to someone who is now a Christian who does believe in God?
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Well, it's been a long journey, Dorsey.
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You know, I I grew up in a Christian household, but when I got to high school, I remember reading in a science book that some people thought we came from pond scum.
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You know, that the first life was sort of in some sort of junk in a pond.
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And when I read that, for some reason, it made me think, well, if that's true, then the Bible's wrong and this religion stuff is nonsense.
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So I considered myself an atheist in college at MIT.
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But when my son was born, my wife said, let's get the kid baptized.
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And I said, Yes, dear.
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I mean, I didn't need that fight.
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I don't know, you don't know if you're married, but uh you don't need the extra fight.
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So we went to get the child baptized, and I realized that those people at the church had a wonderful inner peace and serenity, and I wanted it, you know, and being a successful lawyer wasn't enough.
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I really wanted what they had.
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And so I decided to look at whether there was scientific evidence for God.
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Because I told myself, you know, being a math and physics double major at MIT, I shouldn't believe unless there was some evidence for it.
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And what I found, Dorsey, has amazed me and continues to amaze me.
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I mean, what I found is that it's very clear, and I cannot believe the blindness of our world, but it's very clear that life and particularly human beings were designed.
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And it's also very clear, I think, although many people at universities would disagree with me, that the universe was created supernaturally, and that not only that, but that the universe itself is designed for life to exist.
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And there's so many other areas, but when I look at the numbers and the wonder of it all, there has to be a designer, there has to be a master creator.
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You know, you you just talked on my next my next question there a little bit.
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My next question was gonna be, you know, when you were at MIT and when, you know, you were an atheist, what was your worldview as far as how did the world be you know, how was the world created?
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And what was your worldview then and how did it came to what it is now?
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So you're asking how I thought the world was created.
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Is that it?
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Is that your question?
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I'm sorry.
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Correct.
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How was it how did you yes?
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I might get it.
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Well, I believe good question.
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I believe that uh in something that a lot of scientists called the Big Bang Theory, which is somehow the creation of everything from nothing.
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And it's not just the creation of matter, you know, it's the creation of time and space itself.
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Space, time, and matter are all connected in fantastic equations.
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I mean, that's from Albert Einstein and others.
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And you know, I never really thought about it much, is the truth.
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It's just like, well, everybody believes that, and uh, it's got to be true.
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When you look at that closely, and then you also there's I mean, it all falls apart.
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I think I've made that pretty clear in my first book, Counting to God.
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You know, I mean, atheists believe that there's something they can't explain.
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They call it a singularity, and by using a fancy word like that, they mean, well, you know, poof, there was some magic in the universe started.
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But there is no scientific explanation without God for why everything exists.
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I mean, God created everything.
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So I didn't have a good when I was an atheist, I guess I really didn't think about it very hard, but I've sure spent a lot of time thinking about it since then.
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Yeah.
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With all the ways that we have to prove the existing of God, why do you think so many people still have an unbelief of it's that's another great question.
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And it depends on the person, you know, but I can give you some reasons that I've found to be that keep people away from what I consider the obvious facts.
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One is, and this is kind of the way I was when I was an atheist, you don't want to be stupid, okay?
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You don't want to uh you know, I it's just like you don't want to believe in something that's a fairy tale.
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Right.
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That's how I viewed religion.
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And when I looked at it closely, that's ridiculous.
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But I'll I think a lot of people have this false concept that science is contrary to God, okay?
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That science is contrary to faith, science is contrary to religion, that science has replaced God.
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All of that, if you look at statistics, Dorsey, I think like at least 25% of the people in this country believe that pretty strongly.
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And so they don't want to be stupid in their own mind by believing something contrary to science.
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They think science and God are opposite.
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I think science takes you right to God, no stops.
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So that's one reason.
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Another reason, I think, is that a lot of people don't want there to be a God.
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And that's a personal thing, but a lot of people don't want to say there's a higher moral authority.
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A lot of people don't want there to be rules, they uh they don't want to be told that they should pray or go to church or read the Bible or, you know, do anything like that.
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They want to be able to be free to do whatever they want.
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And so they totally reject God because they think they want to be in charge.
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And I'll give you a third reason, which is that I think it applies to a lot of professors and a lot of people who are so-called, you know, intellectual elites, in that they like to believe they're the smartest uh people, smartest creatures in the universe.
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And the idea of a God that's so much smarter than they are and knows a lot more than they are, really offends them.
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That's kind of so those are some of the reasons, but it's a great question.
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You know, you mentioned about you know the smartest people and the elitist, the professors, even yourself, I'm sure at one point, you know, you probably thought, well, I'm so smart, you know, I can't I you know, I'm smart, I believe in this, I believe in that, you know, there is no God.
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How do you why is it that the smart people, you know, are the ones that don't seem to believe in God, I guess is my question.
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It's a blindness almost beyond belief, Dorsey.
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And I've attended conventions and meetings at the Harvard Faculty Club and other places when I lectured at MIT, and you you talk to these professors and they just think they know it all.
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They have such closed minds, and they're very arrogant about it.
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It's a horrible combination of arrogance and blindness.
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I can't explain it except by saying that in some way, as you point out, I was there too.
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You know, I mean, people like to think they know it all, and I think the facts are overwhelming if you look at it.
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What were some of the facts that you know, whether it be through your book or through your own learning and your own study, that you came to find and realize, hey, there is a God out there?
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Sure.
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There are so many, but I'm gonna give you the one that to me is just overwhelming, undeniable proof of the existence of a God.
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Okay, and you interrupt me if this get-off course or gets too technical, but I think I can keep it pretty straightforward, and that is we have found that all of life runs on advanced digital code.
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Now, let me break that down a little bit.
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What's a digital code?
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A digital code is just a way of transferring information by discrete units.
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Okay, so you and I are talking to each other right now over the internet.
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The internet is a system of digital code.
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Everything we're doing is being broken down into tiny bits of information that our computers can talk to each other and it's transmitted electronically.
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Another form of digital code is writing.
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Okay, if you read, you know that there are discrete letters, there's spaces, there's special symbols.
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Those are individual units that convey a message when they're in the right order and so forth.
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So you have digital codes.
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Okay, now the digital code in all life is called DNA, which is a term that pretty much everybody's heard, but people don't really realize what it is.
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Okay, DNA is a four-unit digital code.
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So there are four complex design groups of atoms that are in DNA, and the order of these atoms tells how to build you, how to build me, how to build every living creature on Earth.
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All life runs on advanced digital code.
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Now, in 2011, there is a scientific group called the ENCODE Project, ENCO-DE project.
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That's 400 scientists worldwide.
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And these are the best of the best of the best, okay?
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And they were charged with figuring out what's in the human DNA code.
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So 400 scientists looking at the digital code and human beings.
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They found that almost all of it is fully functional.
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There's no junk to speak of.
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There's a lot of it we don't know exactly what it does because it's so advanced.
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By the way, Bill Gates, you know, the founder of Microsoft, a pretty good person at coding, said that DNA is like human computer code, only far, far more advanced than anything we've ever built.
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I mean, so anybody who really looks at DNA realizes it is fantastically complicated computer code.
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By the way, we have 3.2 billion letters of code in almost every one of our 30 trillion with a T cells.
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And that's enough information to put.
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If you had a very thick book with two columns of writing on each thin page, and it was several inches thick, and then you stacked a thousand of them on top of each other, you'd have that's about how much information you and I have in just about every one of our cells.
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It's a fantastic amount of computer information.
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So they found that this code in human beings has at least two levels of information, meaning there's code within code.
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It is designed incredible.
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They also found facts like every human being has four million switches in this code to turn things on and off.
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You know, to tell you when to turn you when you wake up, but so much more.
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This code is used by our bodies, it tells us when to we need to build apart, human parts called a protein generally.
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So what we have in our bodies, and we actually have trillions of these things, we have 3D printers.
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I don't know if you're familiar with a 3D printer, but I mean they're fantastic machines.
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You put in computer code and it'll create like a hammer, a screwdriver, you know, a block, depending on what materials it has.
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But it creates something out of code.
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All life has e-printers.
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So the printers read the code and it tells them what to print.
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Then it also tells the human beings how to put the parts together, and that is pretty complicated.
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It tells us when to build a new part, it tells uh and how to operate the part, and that's the four million switches to turn things on and off.
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And if you look at it mathematically, and I get into this a little bit in my books, I think it's obvious why people don't see it.
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I can't explain, but you can't get working computer code by chance.
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Yeah, you can't.
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Okay, the odds of getting even like a hundred letters in the right sequence are much less than picking the right grain of sand out of a pile of sand as big as the known universe.
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I mean, the mathematics when you just get ridiculous.
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So, how does everything have fantastic computer code?
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It goes on and on from there, and maybe I'm talking too much about this, but there's no explanation without God for how every living creature has advanced computer code in it.
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And, you know, my mind's a little blown by what you just said there because I didn't know all of that, you know, before you just said that.
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So how do how do how does God, you know, out in the universe, how did he create that?
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And how did he create all that code and the DN, you know, the shells and everything that he is able to create every human being that is boom?
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We don't know.
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God is not in this universe, God is outside this universe and he's outside space and time, and he created everything.
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And I think you have to go to the Bible.
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Okay, you go to the beginning of Genesis, first chapter, God created everything in six days, which I believe six literal 24-hour days, and then he told us to rest on the seventh day.
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And you know, the intelligence of God is so far above anything human beings can even conceive.
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How he did it, only God knows.
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God only knows.
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But the fact is it's there.
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That's the fact.
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It is there, it is amazing.
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You know, so cell phones are something that run on digital code.
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Now, if you want to get your cell phone to do something new, you have to add new coding, and that's basically download an app.
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People don't think about this, but an app is digital code.
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You put new digital code into your cell phone, you can do something new, right?
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Every single kind of creature has new digital code.
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Code that makes it special.
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Scientists have found this out too.
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So it's like when God built a new creature, he put in some special code just for that creature.
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For example, human beings have at least 54 sections of complex computer code, digital code, just to build some of the parts in our brains.
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Again, I get carried away by this, forgive me, but I think it's so obvious that human beings were created.
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Yeah, you know, another question, you know, people may ask, and you know, even atheists may ask, where did God come from?
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You know, how how the how God formed?
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What will your answer to that be?
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Yeah, and you know, another way to say it is who created God?
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Right.
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Okay, and we know in our universe that everything that um that you know one thing comes from another.
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But here's the point: God is not in our universe.
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When you say one thing was created by another, that means something came in time before something else.
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God is outside time, which is a mind-blowing concept, but he created space and time.
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So we don't know what's going on outside of time.
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We don't know where things come from.
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I think of our universe as a fishbowl.
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Okay, so we're in a fishbowl and it's called the universe.
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Now it sure is a pretty darn big fishbowl, for sure, but God is outside of it.
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God created this fishbowl.
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And how things work outside the fishbowl, we don't know.
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We can only know what's outside the fishbowl from what God tells us.
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And for that, you have to look to the Bible.
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So God being outside, God just is.
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You know, if you go to the Bible, I think it's in the book of Exodus, you know, Moses walks up to the burning bush, and God says, you know, go set my people free.
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Go, you know, tell Pharaoh to let everybody go.
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And God says, Who shall I say has sent me?
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What is your name?
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And God says, I am who I am.
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Tell them I am has sent you.
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Okay, so in other words, God is existence.
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God is why, God just is.
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He is.
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He's not past, he's he's everywhere, everything.
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And I think it's a hard concept to get our brains around that something can be outside of space and time because we don't know anything outside space and time, right?
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But right, God just is, his name is I Am, but usually translated as Yahweh, as you know.
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And we don't God just is.
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We can't see outside the fishbowl and see how things are connected.
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How, what's going on outside of space and time?
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We don't know.
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Can you tell us a little bit more about the book that you've written?
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And in your workbook, you discussed the seven wonders of science.
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Which of those seven wonders of science had the most profound impact on your faith, journey?
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Yes, that's in my first book, thanks, Counting to God.
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I think the most profound impact was this discovery that life runs on digital code.
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That is just undeniable.
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And as a person who grew up with math, the evidence of design is beyond belief.
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But there's other ones.
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The fact that the universe was created, that it hasn't existed forever, well, that leads you immediately to how did the universe get created?
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And there's no scientific explanation for that without God.
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Another fact is that in my seven points, is that the laws of physics, when you look at them, and the way the laws of physics are set up, it's very clearly designed for life to exist.
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This universe is not some accidental universe, but if you look at things like the speed of light, the strength of gravity, it's all exactly set right for life to exist.
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I'll give you an example.
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This strength of gravity, excuse me, is fine-tuned, set exactly right, to about one in a number with 60 zeros.
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And to give you your odds of getting a number exactly right if it has 60 zeros on it, are like picking the right grain of sand out of a pile of sand that goes to the nearest stars.
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Okay.
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Now, the person who discovered this is named Stephen Hawking, a noted atheist.
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But he showed this is true.
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And he also said it's true that a lot of other things are set.
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And so I can't explain his blindness when he was one of the persons who found this out.
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So the universe is uh designed for it.
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Also, it turns out our Earth is very special.
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There's absolutely no way life began without God.
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This this pawn nonsense has been disproven, even though it's in hundreds of high school textbooks as a possible way for life.
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There's a lot there, but I think that having digital code, complex, more advanced than a human being could write inside of all life shows there has to be a God.
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Do you think it can be, and I know there's a probably legal implications to this, because of, you know, people say, well, it's separation of certain states, and we can't teach religion or we can't teach the Bible in schools.
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But do you think that there should be options to teach students to the creation story alongside the Big Bang Theory in schools?
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Absolutely.
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I don't see why students can't be given both theories.
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And I think our court system has really messed up this separation of church and state.
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It was not entitled to kick religion out of popular life.
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It was just to say that the church leaders can't run the country.
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But it's been twisted by courts.
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I think the current Supreme Court is getting a little bit better at that.
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But why can't this evidence for creator be in high school textbooks?
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Why can't this argument?
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Why can't you have both sides of the argument?
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Why do you have to just have the atheist argument?
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And I think that's wrong.
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And courts have said you can't put in the other side of the argument.
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And I think that's just clearly, clearly wrong.
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I think people should be given the facts.
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And if they can't get them in schools, then they should go to church or talk to people who know these facts.
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And I think seminaries and churches.
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As an attorney, if you had to defend your faith, let's say to an atheist, how would you how and had to convince the atheist about your faith and that God exists?
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