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When the roads of life take unexpected turns, it’s the stories of resilience and transformation that often resonate the deepest. That's precisely what we uncover with Pastor Jimmy Schmuda, my spiritual compass from Trinity Assembly Guard in Westchester. Our shared Long Island roots serve as the backdrop to an engaging discussion that traverses from the basketball courts, crowning Michael Jordan as the GOAT, to the gritty streets of Chicago. Pastor Schmuda offers a candid look into his formative years marked by adversity, the profound impact of his grandmother's faith, and the pivotal moment in Florida that anchored his life in unwavering devotion to God.
Navigating the responsibilities of a church leader and addressing the challenges posed by celebrity pastors, this episode peels back the layers on what it truly means to shepherd a community. Pastor Schmuda and I explore the delicate balance between nurturing personal connections within the congregation and the potential pitfalls that megachurches face. We then shift gears to discuss the interplay of sports, faith, and family, contemplating the hard choices that arise when competitive schedules clash with spiritual commitments. Listen as we share insights on guiding our children through crises, emphasizing the nuanced approach required to honor diverse perspectives within our church family. Join us for a heartfelt exploration into the resilience of faith amid life's myriad challenges.
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00:15 - Pastor Jimmy Schmuda's Journey to Faith
13:41 - Shepherding People With a Pastor
24:58 - Parenting Through Sports and Crisis
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Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on another episode of the Dorsey Rush Show.
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Today we have a special guest with us.
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He is now my pastor, who I am.
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I'm living in PA.
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He is now my pastor and he's Pastor Jimmy Schmuda.
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He pastors Trinity Assembly Guard here in Westchester, pa, and he is originally from Chicago, illinois he will give a little bit more background on that and he was also pastoring in New York, on Long Island, where I am from, at the same time as I was living there.
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But I didn't realize that he and I didn't even know each other until we moved to Westchester and we started talking and we were like, oh yeah, I know this past and I know this past and we just never connected while we were on Long Island.
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But here we are now.
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We've known each other for almost three years now.
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Pastor Jimmy Schmuda, thank you so much for coming on the show today.
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No, thank you, Dorsey, for having me.
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I'm so glad We've been talking about doing this forever and finally, on Easter week, we're able to squeeze it into both of our busy schedules, which is awesome.
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So, no, thank you, buddy, I appreciate it.
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Absolutely Well, you know, as I said, you're from Chicago Illinois.
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You're a big sports fan.
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Yep, I get ragged on it all the time.
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For it here.
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So, since you're a big sports fan, who would you say is the GOAT of basketball, and why?
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Dorsey, only you, the legend, could lead with such an important question and the question to settle every single debate.
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Everybody who knows Jesus knows that Michael Jordan is the GOAT hands down, and so there's really no, no comparison to it.
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So I'm really glad that you got the important stuff out of the way right off the top of the show.
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My man you are.
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You are a master at your craft.
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When, with growing up in Chicago, did that affect what who you became and what you, how you became a pastor?
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Yeah, so, so, yeah, I grew up in the city of Chicago for for the beginning of my life I had kind of the story of my grandmother raised me.
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My mother struggled with addiction my whole life and my grandmother was.
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She was a staunch Catholic.
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When I was a little boy we were very committed to the Catholic Church and then she had gotten radically, radically saved, honestly, at a charismatic Catholic seminar she went to, she went to a conference and basically, long story short, there was this rogue priest in our church who, I guess, kind of went, got baptized in the Holy Spirit, came back as a priest, like speaking in tongues and prophesying and all these things.
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And my grandmother got invited to like a prayer meeting that she went to, just kind of really, really got filled with the Holy Spirit, came back, and so we would start doing these things where she would start taking me to these prayer meetings.
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And you know, as a Catholic, you really had prayer meetings.
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You just kind of went to mass and I was the altar boy and all these things.
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Like you really had prayer meetings.
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You just kind of went to mass and I was the altar boy and all these things.
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But it was kind of funny because she would take us like she would take me on a Friday night after she'd get off of work and we would travel into like seven layers deep into the church, into the basement, and it wasn't until years later.
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I really think that this was like a rogue priest who was like holding these charismatic prayer meetings and wasn't supposed to, and just like in the secret next to the boiler room.
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So you know, growing up in Chicago, it was, it was, it wasn't the roughest of neighborhood.
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I moved around a lot, you know, because my mom was in and out of rehab and stuff.
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I'd stay with this family member and that family member here and there.
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So I actually went to 12 different schools from first to high school.
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Um, I think the longest school I stayed in was three years because it was constantly placing me different places.
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So I had kind of grown up in that formula of time with a grandmother who was super spiritual and who was super committed to the Lord, and then yet I had the struggle of a mother who struggled with addiction and through, like my life I had gone through like physical and sexual and mental, and all types of abuses, every abuse that you can have.
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So it was always like this.
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And then of I had, you know, growing up in the city, I had the streets kind of calling me, you know, to a thing, and then I had sports.
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So I kind of grew up as a kid in my Chicago years being torn in so many different directions.
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You know, I was torn where I was curious about this thing called church and Jesus and stuff.
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I was curious about what the world had for me.
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I was looking for my identity because I was bouncing around so much.
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I was looking for stability.
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I grew up with, technically, like no men in my life whatsoever, four women who all loved me, you know, in their own right.
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And so it was my early years in a tough city like Chicago, being raised by all women, not having male influences, being torn by the church and the world, made for a real interesting upbringing, to say the least.
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I know you said you went to church, but when did you eventually say look, I'm going to forget about the world and forget about what's happening out there, but I'm going to serve God and I'm going to accept Him as my Lord and Savior.
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Yeah.
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So my grandmother, when she eventually retired, she moved to Florida.
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So I kind of like to say I have dual citizenship.
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If I'm talking to people from the city, I say I'm from Chicago.
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If I'm talking from friends from the south, I'm like I'm a southerner, because I kind of have a Midwestern, southern or southern upbringing.
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A couple of years later my mom finally succumbed to her addiction.
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She passed away when I was like 15.
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She moved to an area that had it was basically like a three-tier thing.
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It was a local church, it was a huge conference center as well, like on 250 acres, and a retirement community.
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So ultimately, after my mom passed away, she just said you know what?
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I'm tired of you bouncing around from place to place.
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I don't want you raised in the city and I'm going to take you and I'm going to finish out your high school and we're going to do this.
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So I was engulfed in kind of this like community of church, which was really unique to me, because then at that point it was like you're, you know, I learned things like youth group and I was like what the heck's a youth group and stuff.
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And I think my whole life I've always had leadership abilities and so I had a church that was very much like if you're here, you're a leader, you're working, you're serving.
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So, even before, like I had given my heart to the Lord, my church was using me in these situations and stuff and I was like I kind of was there.
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I wasn't really committed, but I tell people this all the time Before I fell in love with Jesus, I fell in love with the church.
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I loved the love that they were giving me.
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It was natural People cared about me.
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I felt like people were.
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And then there was it was kind of like the first real men that wanted to guide me and and and all of these things.
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And so my local church was amazing.
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Um, and then, at the same point, I had all of these wounds and I was a skeptical person.
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Um, once I jumped into kind of, and my church was kind of the it was definitely the charismatic bounce off the walls, flags, just wild.
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And so you come from the Catholic church to like, hey, three and a half hour church services and people are grabbing flags and all of these things.
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And then I kind of started being skeptical of manipulation.
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You know, there was, there was, there was things where I was like people are manipulating.
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This moment and a lot of it was.
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My heart was hardened.
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So I would look and I'd be like, okay, this person is going to come up and cry and then that person's going to grab a flag and the tambourines are going to come, and here come the dancers.
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And I started being really skeptical.
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Honestly, I started feeling like people were trying to manipulate people through emotions.
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Um, and the key point was this was there was a youth camp we had and the speaker who was the main speaker of this youth camp about 200 and some odd kids that are there Um, he had found out right before the service that his brother had committed suicide.
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And my youth pastor comes up to me and he's like, listen, you need to pray for him because, basically, like, his family member had committed suicide.
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And I looked and this guy was a mess.
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Right, he literally just found out and this is how cynical my heart was, dorsey I first of all was like why is my youth pastor asking me to pray?
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Like, I don't do that, I'm not that guy.
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And secondly, my cynicism came in and I said he's going to use this tonight.
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He's going to use this to manipulate people.
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He's going to be like my family member just committed suicide.
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But I'm here and I'm such a holy Christian and look at me and stuff, and he comes out high energy first of all, and I was like wow, that's kind of impressive.
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It started grabbing me and he starts making all of these young people laugh, at first, like he has this keyboard and he's making fart noises right, because we're young people and that always makes you laugh and puke noises.
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And he's doing all of these and during the whole service I'm saying to myself when's he going to drop the bomb, right?
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Like, when's he going to really be like?
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Guess what?
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I just heard right before service this dude went through the entire service and never mentioned it one time, didn't bring it up, didn't talk about it, didn't use it as manipulation and stuff and my youth pastor had told me.
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He said you know he cause.
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I thought, oh, he's not going to speak.
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And he said, um, no, he's going to.
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He feels that this message is important for someone and God wants to use it.
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And when he gave the altar call and I realized he is not going to talk about this, something clicked in me and I said only God can give a man that kind of strength, after having lost my mom and going through it, to sit here and make a bunch of young people laugh and stuff.
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And that was my, that was my God moment of like no, there's a power out there that's bigger than me.
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And so he, he had a, uh, his sermon I'll never forget.
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He said if you're going to be the one that was his title of the sermon he said I'm going to count to three.
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I don't want you to stand up and I want you to scream at the top of your lungs I will be the one.
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And he was like one and I jumped up and I was the first one in the whole thing and I ran to the altar man and I literally laid at the altar from probably about nine 30 at night to two o'clock in the morning, um, weeping, receiving, you know, giving my life to the Lord, um that night.
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Not only that, I always say I got the perfect trifecta.
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Um, I gave my heart to the Lord, I got baptized in the Holy spirit and I got my prayer language and I got my call into ministry.
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Like all in what my God was like.
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We might as well just get it all over with so long story, for that's kind of my journey, when I decided, you know, to stop living off my grandmother's faith and make it my own.
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And I've been serving him since.
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Amen.
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So what are some of the misconceptions that you think that people have being a pastor, that people have of pastors?
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Oh well, the first thing is that I think, um, misconception.
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Well, there's the obvious one, right, we work one day a week leading up through Easter.
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Right now, me and the staff, we're all like we can not wait till the like.
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You're excited about Easter, there's so many people coming and at the same point we are exhausted, like everybody's walking around, like so tired.
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I got people filling eggs and decorating and, uh, you know we're updating websites.
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Just everybody's running around like crazy people.
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Um, so I think one of the misconceptions on that front end is hey, we just show up, give it little speech and then go back to our houses and show back up and sit around and pray.
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I think that's one of the generalized, every pastor would say is a misconception.
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But you know, I do think to speak to that.
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You know.
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I think that sometimes we've esteemed a lot of people in this celebrity status that have not done a good job showing the shepherd's heart, demonstrating that, and so I understand people's misconceptions right, because I think we, with the celebrity status that has kind of become this monster, you know, we maybe have not done this great job of showing.
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You know, my heart is to show my church.
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I care about them.
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I'm here to shepherd them.
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I want to be there for them.
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I want to be at the hospital calls, I want to counsel people.
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I want to do all of those things.
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You know, that's what I want to do for my people, that God's entrusted me with and I don't know that we've done a good job showing that to people.
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So I do understand where the misconceptions can come, where it's like oh, this guy, you know, if you have a pastor who's unapproachable, who you can't talk to, you can't see, you can't connect with, I mean, you see, right before we started the podcast, people walk into the door.
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You know there's an open door policy I have and you want to be available for your team, for people, and my prayers is my church has come to understand, after 11 years, like I can walk into his office anytime, you know, and speak to him and stuff.
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So being you know, the misconception I think is people don't understand.
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That's the reality of the job.
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You know, the dropping things at the last minute, being flexible, are very important.
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Yeah, yeah, you don't mention names, but you do try to steer people away from those pastures and from those pastors and those people that try to dissuade and try to, you know, misrepresent the Bible.
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Yeah.
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Is that because of what you've seen in your past and that's part of your heart?
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Is that something that you know that you need to make people aware of?
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Yeah, you just want to get me in all sorts of trouble here today.
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No, I do mention it Again.
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I'm called to pastor my people.
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I'll go on record of saying I don't think the megachurch was Jesus' plan for the local church.
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It's local for a reason.
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Now I think we're at fault.
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You know, we've bought the books, we've gone to the conferences, we've done all of these things.
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There's a gospel that I preach.
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That for me it's.
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I want to be true to the whole word of gospel, the entire counsel of the gospel.
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It breaks my heart sometimes, you know, through social media, when I see my people and again I'm talking about my people and they'll repost certain things where you go.
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That's not biblical, right?
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Now what happens is I have other shepherds feeding my flock.
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Now that I have to fight against, right?
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So here I'm talking about let's say I'm talking about a subject that talks about.
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If you were to pick a tough one by saying we have to wrestle with the mysteries of God, excuse me, we have to wrestle with the mysteries of God, there is the unknown.
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Or say, for instance, you were to take healing where it's like my stance is our job is God does heal, he can heal.
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We should pray for healing, but there are certain points where it's not in his will to heal that person.
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So I'm going to preach this.
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You know you and I are AG guys.
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I'm going to preach this balance thing of like yes and yes when I read scripture right and yes when I read scripture right.
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Then I'm going to have to battle against some of my members who are buying into the nonsense that says, well, it's not only God's will to constantly heal it, but it's our right to claim that healing Like we deserve this, when really the Bible says we deserve death.
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Right, just the fact of is, if our faith is finished by salvation alone, we've gotten more than we ever deserve as people.
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But now I've got these guys out there because they have a bigger platform, because all these things and listen, I am not saying this out of jealousy or out of anything because, to be honest with you, I'm not equipped to pastor a mega church.
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I am not gifted.
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I'm not equipped to pastor a mega church.
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I am not gifted.
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I have zero desire to have a mega church.
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There is nothing inside of me that would ever want to.
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I've worked at big churches and I think in the last 10 years, I've realized that I don't know.
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I don't know that we do it justice if we're keeping people in mind.
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Right, if you're.
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If, for me, I love the fact that we're talking about this in the men's group a couple weeks ago.
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I love the fact that anybody in my church can shoot me off a text, a funny meme, a real, something like it's approachable.
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I know when their kids are sick, I know when they're in the hospital, and to me, you know, obviously there's a number in my head that I say I can do this much.
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And then we would have to launch, you know, we would have to open up another church, we would have to encourage people, because I think if we're not shepherding people accordingly, you know we're leading them astray.
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And so for me it's very important to talk about, to talk against self-help methods.
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Your best life now.
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All of these different nonsense.
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I am God, these little God theologies, the NAR movement, all of these different things, because I'm not with these people 24 hours a day.
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Now other shepherds are coming into my flock and they're feeding my sheep with things that I don't feel I want them to eat.
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So, yeah, you probably hear on a Sunday morning, because you're very astute, the subtle, but you know very important things.
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You know to remember and one-on-one I will tell people stay away from this person.
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We've had people leave our church because we go.
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No, we're not going to teach that, and I think that's a stance where a good pastor has to take.
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You know, if you're only going to preach a part of a gospel, if you're only going to preach things that don't, you know, make people feel good, easter has become super discouraging to me looking at a lot of things that people are doing out there in terms of drawing people in and it's just sad Like the gospel is strong enough, the word of God is strong enough.
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We should bring it in its fullness and tell the full story and not be ashamed of that and not try to water it down.
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And honestly I always say this we don't have to get cute with the gospel.
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It does its work, you know alone.
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Right.
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What makes you passionate about what you do?
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Oh, it's easy.
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People Even.
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You know, even going through the difficult things I went through in my life, I've always loved people, whether it's been friends, whether it's been pastors, whether it's been coaches playing.
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You know, I have always had a love for people.
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In our mission statement, you know, our three key phrases are honoring God, serving people and living the gospel.
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I love serving people, you know, and I think, growing up in somewhat dysfunction not having a dad, not really having a mom around there was always that draw to have family around and you know, I always had this desire to want to create that family environment.
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You know, we try to say here that we are a great church that feels like a large family.
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That's kind of like my goal.
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And when we get, when people come to our church and we get the how was your first experience?
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Nothing brings me more joy than when people write on there.
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It's like it's just so warm and welcoming.
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I felt like it was family.
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You know, we just did our business meeting.
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You were there on Sunday and I had so many people who've been part of our church for 10, 15, 20 years.
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They came and they said we used to dread these meetings, like we used to just dread them.
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But they said you know, this feels like a family reunion, like we're all just coming catching up on everything we've done all year and stuff like that, and so that's my motivation.
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People are always going to be my motivation, you know, for ministry, outside of being obedient to the Lord.
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Yeah, and I, you know, even I met several people.
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You know in my three years, now that I've been there, that I feel, you know, like my family or my extended family, testing everything yourself.
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I mean, you're my pastor, but I consider you my friend as well.
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Yeah, you're my buddy man.
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You're my big six-foot-five brother that I never had.
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Well, it was easy.
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First of all, you are easy to love, dorsey, and you give the best hugs in the church.
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I'll say it, I don't care People can be mad at me, but you give the best hugs and that always wins me, man, thank you started to realize how you know similar, but also how different you are to my home pastor as well, and I think that's what connected me to trinity as well yeah, you know the similarities that you guys had.
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Now, the biggest difference is that you speak, you know, maybe 45 minutes an hour and a half, maybe an hour and a half service, whereas my other pastor would speak two and a half hours service.
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Oh hallelujah, he probably has a lot more better things to say than I do.
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I'm sure he's a lot more smarter and probably has a lot more content with me.
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I'm sure he's a lot more smarter and probably has a lot more content with me.
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I'm a humble man and I'm a simple man, I should say, where I probably have a good 35, 40 minutes before I'm running out of good things to say, maybe.
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Now, one last thing I want to talk about is your family being, you know, very sports-oriented family.
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And you guys, you know, you see, the balance that you have with going to your kids' basketball games and your kids' practices and everything.
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How do you balance the two, between going to the games but also being there?
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You know, being there for the church and being there when you need to be at the church, if that makes sense.
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Yeah, no good question for parents out there who are struggling with their kids doing sports, because you know, I know there's a big push right now.
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Where it's.
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You know, a lot of things I've been seeing on the clips have drawn me to God to kind of check and what I'm doing as a dad.
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There's a lot of famous speakers out there who are saying like your kids will never make it in sports and they'll stand before the Lord one day and they kind of heap that on you know really big.
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And it's good because I think it's a I'm not saying that to rag on them.
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I think it's a hard check and, to be honest, when my first I have two daughters and a son.
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Both of my daughters play college basketball and when my oldest started playing, I had a problem seeing how much church that she would miss and my wife and I actually were more resolved, especially with the amount that she would miss with practices.
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There was a season where I'd be like, okay, she won't be at youth group and she won't be at church.
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I don't like this at all and it still makes me uncomfortable, if I'm being honest, but it is the system that's there and I was talking to my spiritual dad and I just said she's got a chance to really go big.
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They say she's getting recruited for this national team.
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I said but she's going to miss so much church that I just think we're just going to trust the Lord and say she'll get where she needs to get.
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That's what I was on and my spiritual father he had said you know, jimmy, what I think honestly you're doing is is, I think that you have a very shallow view of her calling.
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And I remember saying what does that mean?
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