Too Soon to Quit

Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on another episode of the Dorsey Uh show. Today we have a special guest with us. His name is Jay Sethell. He is a Marine Corps veteran, entrepreneur, inventor, and author, whose life story is a powerful testament to resilience, determination, and unshakable faith. From a childhood on a farm to serving in the Marines, he has faced an overcome overwhelming challenges, including multiple near death experiences, and more than so many surgeries. Yet he continues to choose courage over surrender through his work on Never Quit Trying and his book The Strengths Within You. Hey inspires others to push past limitations and place purpose and live with tenacity and hope. His core message is it's always too soon to quit. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about yourself and about your story and and your faith.

Oh. Uh it's a long it's a lot to unpack and for 76 years. Uh but there's some you know, I can I can sum it up and say three or four but north central Illinois and and uh I know you're in Pennsylvania and my my my mother's or my dad's mother was from Lancaster County and and so the new blue b new Bloomfield area and all that and I've been to Carlisle and back up into the hills and there's a there's some beautiful area back there, but but uh we we raised a it was a working farm that I came off of, uh a lot of cattle, did a lot of agricultural spraying with airplanes, but it was it was a learning time, you know, and they and I and I've read several times where you know your your your formative years are really from when you're born till about 17, 17 and a half, and I was always pushed with a sense of urgency and you know responsibility, taking taking care of whatever the problem was. And the one thing that we don't have today as much as we did back then was a sense of community because the farmers all helped each other. You lived outside of small farm towns and you worked pretty good. You know, yeah, you it was just a everybody kind of knew everybody and helped everybody. Not everybody knew everything about everybody, but they they were kind of there. But I got done with that. I worked uh nights uh for eight hours a night when I was uh most of my way way through high school, sophomore junior and senior, got out of school quarter to four and started working at four o'clock in a small agricultural factory, and uh worked till 1230, got back up at 5.30 in the morning, helped my dad do chores, and and if I didn't help him do his chores in the morning and he did my chores for me in the evening because I was working, he would charge me for it. That's why I'm saying it was uh it was nothing's for free. There's nothing for free. You you gotta work at it. It doesn't matter what, and and of course I had crops, so if I used the tractors and the combines discs or plowed, he would charge me by the acre or by the by the hour. It was just but it it was okay because I was making money, he's making money, and that's what it's about. It's uh helping each other. That's but that sense of responsibility I don't think is power laid on. But when I got out of high school, I enlisted in the Marine Corps a few months later, and my grandfather had had a heart attack, so I didn't go in right away. I had uh I got up put on a delayed enlistment program and went in in May of '68. And uh I uh ended up being in criminal intelligence. I was a covert ops guy and a drug unit. And uh unfortunately, uh I only lasted 17 months, 12 days, and about 20 hours, and I died. And uh that was my first death in the Marine Corps. And uh we'll go into that later, but you know, I I got through that. I spent a year in the naval hospital. Uh they got me back, uh, got out and did did uh started some I I tried I had several jobs, but I I needed jobs where I could stand and sit because of my leg braces and my back issues, and so the pain was just too much. So I started my own little job or businesses, and we did very well. And uh then July or September 3rd, 1973, I was in another accident, got a drunk hit me almost head on, and uh he got killed, got thrown out of his own vehicle and no seat belt and run over, and I had my seatbelt on a 300-mile brand new Monte Carlo and rolled several times down into the ditch and had a bad out-of-body experience again, but it wasn't terrible like the one in the Marine Corps, that was a really violent one. This one I was more ascending into the sky, and again we'll talk about that, I guess. And uh, but I they got me back. Uh they they filled me with blood. I had bled out, and I next thing I knew I was in the hospital, but recouped from that, went back to running businesses, starting some more businesses. I got a corporate job uh with a company that you may have heard of, GTE, back in the day. They were big in the phone companies and and yellow pages and so on. And I started that February 1st, 1981, and July 4th, 1981, I jumped in a swimming pool, feet first, and broke my neck in four places and drowned, and was paralyzed from the shoulders down. So that that started another whole series. It's kind of like a uh uh I I I just couldn't escape all the b all the bad stuff. It's just like it kept following me, you know. And uh I mean when I was 17 I had was in a feeding logger accident on the farm, and and I came very close. It broke my right ankle and cut my leg open pretty good, but if it had been another few seconds, I would have been ground up like hamburger. So, you know, but I that didn't happen. So but I did the Marine Corps, did the other car accident, broke a neck, got out, uh went back to work at the corporate, and uh did very, very well. Very, very well. Transferred m multiple times, took over a lot of problems, and you know, it's kind of like I was a a a problem solver corporately because it's I guess it just put it this way, once you've been dead, you've had to fight your way back multiple times and start other businesses and stuff. It's it's uh you're you're a problem solver. You're not afraid of it. But uh they retired me when I was 41 because I was uh a risk from from my paralysis, so many surgeries. I've had 73 surgeries total now, probably will have more. But uh I I started another company as soon as I they put me out the past year, I started in the company and it did very, very well. And we had it about 15 years roughly, and um I decided, you know, I'm I'm just gonna move over to where I'm at now. I'm kind of like in the hill country of Texas, in central Texas. But uh I was retired kind of about six months and said, nope, that's not gonna last, so I gotta start something else. So we we did home building and did very, very, very well at that. But now I quit that two and a half years ago, but I've been very involved in uh another venture where I own 20% of a company as a partner and heavily invested in something that's we're we're national, we just went international with 48 countries, but it's a battlefield immersion training to help save soldiers' lives, and and uh it's also we've taken the same products, paint them a different color, and we use them through fire departments and fire training academies, and also law enforcement and SWAT teams. So it's all about helping other people, it's about saving lives, it's about you know, it's just out of all this, I just can't quit. Whether I'm ADHD, I don't know. I I I probably, you know, uh because I can't sit still. But I've been spinal cord injury, uh traumatic brain injuries, uh, TTSD, you know, it's just you gotta accept it, look at it, figure it out, and it just keep moving ahead with the you know, with the faith that, you know, got God's obviously with me, or I wouldn't be here. And I I believe that 100% because it's self-explanatory.

When did you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior?

Well, I probably, I mean, you know, I once I was I had perfect attendance in Sunday school. We went to church, not a lot, but often enough. I I'd say about 30% of the year, but the rest of the time we, you know, we we would do it we would do picnics after Sunday school. You know, I was confirmed, I was I was born and raised Methodist. And, you know, I but I've been to Baptist, I've been to non-denominational over the years, and so i is is a confirmation, that's when you do it. But I don't know that I really, you know, and I gotta be honest, I always uh just shoot the straight. I don't know that I ever really realized what it was. I I mean, you know, you you say the words, you do this, you listen, you you you you pay attention. Like I said, you learn. It was really after I broke my neck, and I would say four months after that was when I really realized how strong prayer is and how much it really means. And when I had broken my neck, it was about a week later, and I'd been married three weeks the day that it happened, and uh my wife was I had bolts bolts in my skull and all this, and and uh I was laying face down and she introduced me to a guy she met in the waiting room, a guy's name was Tom Cooper, and she said, uh, I've met this man and he would like to say a prayer for you. You know, and I was 100% paralyzed. And she said, you know, if it's okay, can you blink your eyes? And so I I blinked my eyes, and I can't tell you what he said. I mean, I'm sure it was all good stuff. And he I I've over the years I've kind of, you know, looked at this like, you know, if I had not accepted that prayer, would I have ever accomplished or been able to move and do what I did? Would it have been like rejecting God? You know, this that kind of a thing. But Tom went to a church of about 5,000 people in the great outside Minneapolis, and they had three services on Sunday, and you know, 1,200 to 1,500 to 1,800 people, and he went to every service every Sunday for months and asked everybody for prayer for me, as my mother did, and so on. And I'm an overachiever. I I like I I I'm just an overachiever. I you can't tell me something to do, and I'm gonna outdo it. It doesn't matter. I I'm my I don't compete against anybody. I compete against me. And my expectations are further than what somebody else is going to expect of me, in my opinion. And so I, you know, but through the week I could get incremental improvement back from physical therapy and occupational therapy and so on. But it seemed like on Sundays, and this is kind of this is the testimony, this is a strong testimony, because on Sundays I would get more movement back than any other day of the week. And I think it was like the power of prayer. You know, five, ten, fifteen thousand people raising, I don't know, raising me up in prayer. And not that I wasn't praying or thinking about it, but I've never had that moment, Dorsey, where somebody something, you know, I read stories, I've heard things over the years where somebody walks out of church and they see a bluebird in a tree, and they think that's God, and they are they're gone. They're they're just you know, that's it's like this epiphany they have, and it's it's it's over. That's it. They they know right that second. Now, I'm uh all the better for them, but I I wasn't like that. I was the hard-headed, stubborn, you know, it's like my cousin told me, do not ever go into Marine Corps. He'd been in the Marine Corps. He said, Don't ever do that. That's no, don't, don't, no, no, no. So, you know, that's like telling a kid you stay out of the candy bowl. You know, it's like, okay, as soon as you turn your back, right? But uh, you know, I obviously went to church in the Marine Corps to get away from the drill instructors, but I also found, you know, listening to them in the in the chaplains that we had were pretty good. You know, we had a lot of death back there, 67, 68, 69. We were we were sending 350 to 450, 500 bodies home every week. And that's a lot of bodies. You know, I mean today w we didn't have but three or four thousand killed or whatever it was in all of Afghanistan and Iraq, and it's terrible. But yet there it it was it was it was bad. But I I want to say that I I always knew the Lord was with me through all of my all of my stuff. You know, and in at nighttime. I never went to bed without saying a prayer. We never had supper or lunch or breakfast or anything without saying grace. You know, so it was kind of uh embedded in me, but I really think that it was after I broke my neck, and that way, and then and since then, it's just it's it's part of what I do. I mean, I every night I go to bed, I thank God for the day, for what he's helped me through, for what what it's gonna be. Every morning when I get up, you know, I pray and I trust God that's gonna he's gonna carry me through what I've got to do for that day. So it's just it's there. It's just it's not that I and I don't go to church very often. It's very difficult for me, and wheelchairs and power wheelchairs and getting up, going, and all this, and the pain is terrible. But it's like I I I know that I have a personal relationship with the Lord, and I couldn't have been through that and should have been dead at least three other times, and really four, and uh uh uh i i if he didn't want me here. So that's that's why I say that it's it's a personal relationship.

The surgeries that you had, you you think you had over, you know, about how many surgeries and you may have to have more uh over your lifetime, were they from the different accidents that you've had or were it some undermining, you know, condition that you have?

It's really more from the accidents, you know, and what's all happened. And then, you know, the uh the last 35 or 40 uh surgeries have really been like when I when I my back was so damaged in the Marine Corps, but they couldn't do anything with it, and I was in traction for eight and a half months, and uh they couldn't have done money more. I mean, I had plenty of surgeries from their skin graphs from third degree burns and so on and so forth. But uh the the ones that have been a lot have been brainstem surgeries I've had over the last I was about eighteen years ago, I had multiple of those. I've had 15 back surgeries, my knees, left knees had 16 surgeries, it's been replaced three times. The only two parts of my body is my right wrist and my left elbow that have not had been pinned, rotted, broken, had some kind of surgery or some every other bone, every other part, my knees, my ankles, my left foot was busted up so bad it was bent it went backwards. It was going my foot was going the opposite direction it was supposed to be. So it's just it's a cumulative effect of the continuous damage that your body does.

When did suffering first collide with your faith?

Suffering?

Yeah.

Probably when I was a kid, because I had a problem with stepping on nails. And when I was about seven, I stepped on a nail that went through my and you're you're in Pennsylvania, so you know what four buckle boots are, and you put them on over your shoes and go out and I stepped on a nail that went up through the through the boot, my shoe, my foot, out the shoe and out the top of my boot. My my my grandpa was not too far ahead of me and and I go, I'm screaming, you know, and I can't pick my foot up. It's on a f piece of two by four, about two feet wide. And he came back to me and he said, Okay, he said, what I want you to do is I want you to squat down. And I was crying, you know, obviously, and uh hurting, and I'm looking at the nail sticking all the way through my foot. And he said, I want you to squat down, put your hands up my shoulders, and I'm gonna put my hand between your leg, uh behind your knee, and while you're squatted down, I'm gonna pull that that foot off through the nail. And he said, on a count of three, one, two, and he yanked that sucker. And I was like, oh God, and I do remember saying, Oh God, you know, it's like, oh Lord, you know, it's like, and so I I don't know. Maybe from that point on, it was just like, you know, i it it's I I I realized, you know, of course, through Sunday school, through confirmation, through all of that stuff, you know, uh, you know, cr what what Christ went through for us, you know, what what he went through. And and I spoke with another gentleman, uh, he's a pastor as well, and uh, we were talking about my halo cast being bolted into my skull, and I've got my scars. I don't know if you can see them from there, but here and here and back here, and and uh and they bled quite a bit, you know, and I had them in there for oh gosh, six months. If you did much, if you smiled, if you laughed, don't ever sneeze, because your head expands, your skull expands, and boy, when those bolts are tight, it is a killer. But uh he asked me, did I ever think about when I was bleeding from my bolts, did it ever think about it being Christ-like, you know, with the but the thorns on? I said, no, I I don't put myself in that class, but at the same time, there had to be some similar pain, I would say. Thorns are different, but bolts in your skull are they're nothing to be sneezed at either. And uh so I just think that throughout that, I just my faith carried me through that I know that it's gonna be temporary. No matter what, any of us go, we're all temporary. You and I, we're we're temporary on this earth. So, you know, even if it's hurting real bad, it's gonna stop at some point. Now my back is very, very painful. I have you know, 15 back surgeries, so it's like I have a lot of spinal, a lot of spinal damage. So the pain never goes away. It never goes away. Except when I lay down at night, it goes down to about 20% of what it normally is. But you know, it's like I can't wait to it. You know, and I and I ask God just to help give me strength to get through it. Keep going, keep going, keep I don't do drugs, I don't mean medications, I don't I I I can get all I want, but I'm not gonna do it. I I if I did I at 76 I'd either be a drug addict or my stomach would be routed out from all the drugs and stuff, and you know where I'm coming from on that. And I I I just I you know, and the one thing I I want to say, my faith drove me to knowing that I was gonna move. I didn't hope when I when I broke my neck, and there's a difference between the Marine Corps dying in the car accident from the drunk driver and the broken neck. And that is that, you know, when you can see the damage, when you can see the bones sticking out, when you can see the third-degree burns, when you can see all of that stuff, I've kind of come up with a saying over the years that sweat dries, blood clots, and broken bones heal. Suck it up. You know, but when it's in your neck or you as a as a pastor, you talk with people that have had heart attacks, strokes, spinal cord injuries, traumatic brain injury. It's I'm sure it goes on and on. So I've been very blessed in knowing that he's with me to to encourage others. And when I was at the going down to physical therapy after about the third month or so, I uh I found myself I stopped in the lobby. And uh there weren't a lot of rooms. I mean it was like it was attached Sister Kenny Institute is attached to a huge hospital, like 7,000 employees. Sister Kenny Institute attached to it is all about spinal cord trauma, uh traumatic brain injury, and strokes. That's all it is. And when I went through, there was about 80 people. And then they rotated in and out all the time. But I would stop in rooms, and let's say I see Dorsey, and Dorsey's laying in bed and he's got a halo cast in. Okay, or maybe something else, I, you know, depending on what it is. And I could see the name on the door. Excuse me, I picked up a cough last night, but I would I would step in and or not step in, they would roll my wheelchair in and I say, you know, hi, Dorsey, my name's Jay. I'm in a room down here, and I see you got a halo cast on. Was it from a car accident? Was it jumping in a pool? Was it diving in a pool? You know, and try to encourage them and find out if they had goals and talk to them about their goals and and tell them that, hey, you can do it. You can do it. You gotta have the faith you can do it, not just hope. Hope is hope is okay, but it's faith, real faith, real believing that is what changed my mind and and helps other people. That's the real faith of it. So it's it's uh I don't know. I I just progressed on out of that and continued on, and I knew that he had helped me through everything and and was going to continue to do so. Dorsey, I don't know.

Yeah.

That's about what I got.

You mentioned about, you know, that you can take all these medications and to help with your pain and everything, but you don't do it. And I'm and the kind of, you know, a belief that you have that you don't want to take them because you're afraid of being addicted to them, or was it something in the Marine Corps that you feel like, hey, I'm a Marine, I I don't want to take these medications?

Anyway, you know, back back when I was a kid in the you know, I was born in 49. Broken ankle, they fixed you up the best they can, they stitched up my leg and and and that's it. So I I I just got the faith that I can move through and I'm gonna have the strength. And I in and you know, in the in my book, The Strength Within You, it's always too soon to quit. I think that that's part of what I have and I rely upon, Dorsey, is a strength of pain. Because if you can deal with that pain and keep dealing with it, it will help well, when pain pushes me, I push back. And it's like right now, if I have something trouble with my with my mouse here, and I'm really working on it, I'm thinking about it, or we're having our conversation, my pain goes away some because you're not concentrating on it. It's when you sit back and think about it and concentrate and go, if you're sitting there all alone, or if I'm sitting here all alone and I I got nobody to talk to, I got nothing else going on, I'm kind of I never get bored because I'm always doing something. And that's my ADHD. That works. It's got a good benefit, you know? And uh you just have to control it. I let it push me because I it's like, what what else is it that drives somebody in my book? Like I said, it talks about the medical issues, but it talks more about what what is it in you, not inside of you necessarily, but within you. To me, within you is what what I've learned from talking to to Dorsey, to from talking to Bob, to what I've learned throughout my life. That's within me. It's all it's all encompassing. And it's it's what can I draw from? Whether it's my DNA, the way I was raised, Sunday school classes, a teacher in school, my parents, my grandparents, is it is it my stubbornness? Is it my is it my belief, my faith? Is it is it aggravation, irritation, frustration? Is it pain? And pain can be a motivator. And just about everybody that's been in pain that accepts that and thinks about it, they can understand that. So I would rather not take something and not feel in control of myself, my thoughts, my body, because that's what happens. That's so many of these people. And I'm pretty well convinced that, you know, how they you know, you've heard the thing where they got two twenty-two veterans a day on average commit suicide. And I believe a lot of that is from the drugs they give them at the Veterans Administration. And I don't care who wants to argue with me at all. I don't care. I've seen it. I've talked to guys when my son was in the Marine Corps and he re-enlisted and they finally put him out for medical uh issues too. In the first three weeks, they sent him 1,600 fricking pills. 1600 pills. Okay, they had uppers and downers and mood swings and pain pills. If he'd done that, and he's been out nine years now, he'd he'd be dead. And that's where and I've talked to people and and I've talked to doctors that I know that that have talked to veterans, and they come in and they're on this this list of medications. It's 20 pills or 30 pills, and they and they just keep feeding them to them. Well, we had a guy down here at San Antonio uh about three months ago committed suicide. It was a Marine Corps sergeant. He went in and and he had complained about the pills he was on. He complained on a lot, and then nobody was there that day. He had five appointments, three of them never showed up, and and the other two said, well, we're gonna have to cancel it for today. Well, he had driven 80 miles, he went out in the parking lot and blew his brains out. And that's a sad thing to do. But it's I think it's easier for the Veterans Administration to just let you go kill yourself than they have to worry about you. And I know that's getting pretty heavy and it's pretty opinionated, but I have the right to say that opinion because I've been there. I know I'm off the subject a little bit, but I'll let you bring me back on, okay?

Well, the re the reason why I I mentioned about the pills and I asked you about that question was my dad was also a former Marine. He passed away back in uh November of 2025, and he he served he served in Korea.

Korea.

You know, like you, you know, whenever he was in pain, you know, I would tell him, Dad, take Tylenol, take, you know, Medicaid. No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna take, I'm not gonna take, I'm not gonna take it. I don't want to become addicted to it. I don't want to become addict for dad. It's telenol. You're not gonna become addicted to telenol.

Well, but it's it's uh when you go through the Marine Corps too, Dorsey, like your dad. I mean, the Koreans, the guys that as they served in Korea, like like the great generation that did World War II, they're they they went through in Korea, the pain is nothing. It can go into the frozen chosen. I mean, the that's what the most of the Marines were called. You know that as well as I do. And and and it's it's you gotta be tougher. That's the problem. We're we've got a society of kids today and young people today that are they're they're they're they're they've been wussified. I don't know any other word. They've they've just been pacified so much. Oh, well we'll we'll give you this for that. Or you you got okay, you're not learning good enough, so we're gonna give you a drug for that. Look at the drug companies. Who's making the money in America? Follow the money. So, like your dad, I mean, it I did take a couple of, they weren't Thailand, oh I don't remember what they were. My wife had a had small bottle, uh little gel caps, but we drove here recently and my back does real, real bad in a car. And and I did take a couple of those. I don't know if it really helped me, but I think it did. Just if if it just takes the edge off a little bit. I do take a half of a pain pill that I've got when I'm gonna go get my uh like a CT scan or an M an MRI because when they lay me down, my God, I I my body shakes and I go into spasms and and it's just it's it's everybody always worries about are you okay, sir? Are you okay? So I take a half a pain pill and it helps relieve some of that, but I don't feel it. If I take a whole pain pill, I can I feel it, I feel it. I don't like that. I don't like to not be in control. So maybe it's just you know, it's the stubbornness of being a jar hit. That's what it is. You know, it's just you know, let's lay it, let's admit it, you know.

Tell us a little bit more about your book and what is it about and and about you yeah, about you.

Well, it's just really like I said before, it's uh and again the title, The Strength Within You, and it's always too soon to quit. It it just starts out with the th starts out with the third time I died, when I drowned, when I when I had my broken neck. And then it kind of gives a little history of where I came from and what what I what I came from and and what I did kind of what we talked about when giving me when I was talking at first and how I went through my life and what I've done. It breaks it down into more detail, but the essence of the book is not so much to cover the medical issues as to find out what do you have within you? What does Dorsey have within him? What does somebody else that you have as a parishioner have within them, male or female, young or old, it doesn't matter. They've got something in them that they can reach in and grab a hold to give them some strength, to get through, to give them resilience, to get through the adversities, to fight through those roadblocks and that pain or the uncertainties of life. You know, all the changes they may have to make. And so that's just really what it is. It's more you know, there's several comments in it, like, you know, I feel i i I I I I've put uh several words in there that are uh I'll send you a PDF of it. Okay? You can you can read it. And uh uh it it's it's lost my thought, lost my train of thought. So your book It's well, I'm getting old is what the problem is. And I've got nothing to do with the book. No but getting old. But no, I uh it's it's more oh I know. I I put several comments and like little things like, you know, I believe that some of my beliefs, like mm, Pennsylvania Dutch, you know, the the you know, you know, uh inch by inch, it's a cinch. Yard by yard is very hard. You know, do things a little step at a time, a little bit at a time. A lot of people want to go out and do everything at once. Well, the the tortoise beat the hare in the race because the hare decided, oh, I'm fast as heck, but then he got tired out and the little turtle kind of walked on by, you know, and and beat him. But it's like I believe that more the more people you help, the better person you become. I believe there's a lot of those little sayings in there, little ants that and a what's the word? Ants an a seasot? No, I can't say the word. It's little little sayings that you know help help you look at the world and understand that you know that it's a big world. There's a lot out there. And it's just all it all kind of plays together. It's a short book, it's 165 pages or something, but you know, and it it it's you know, and I want to make a comment too, is it's like it's not always about the surgeries, it's it's it's the it's the recuperations and some of the things that go wrong after surgeries. It's like when they rebuilt my neck, that was a 15-hour surgery, and they took so much bone out of my left pelvis, I got out of the hospital about a month later, and third or fourth night I was home, I had to go to the to the bathroom. Bad. And I had leg braces on my legs and my crutches, and I'm going back, and I had this Philadelphia collar that pushed up real hard. I was going, just got into the bedroom, and I was going just by my dresser, and all of a sudden, top, it was like a firecracker went off. Well, what happened was, and I and I dropped my left crutch, I caught myself on my dresser with my left arm, and my right crutch stayed in place, but the iliac crest or the front part of my pelvis, they had it was too much torque, and it tore the whole pelvis part off. I had four and a half, five inches of bone sticking out, tore right through my skin, tore through my my my uh sweatpants, the blood is pouring out, but I gotta go to the bathroom really bad. And I'm looking down at that thing, oh my God, and the pain was not good, trust me. And my wife heard it, she came running in, and and I told her, I said, I gotta go to the bathroom. So she got down her hands and knees and took took her her hands and picked my left leg up and put it ahead, and then I drug my right leg along, put my foot in, and I did I did that all the way to the bathroom. Then I sat down in the toilet. Well, the the bone tore through worse. And then she called 911 while I was in there, and uh she came back and uh we I said, I'm not gonna be sitting on the toilet when the EM EMT gets here. I'm not gonna be doing I'm a Marine, I'm not gonna dab that. No, no, no. And so I uh, you know, we we got me back up, but I was bleeding bad. I mean it the bone was it was a lot. So what I'm saying is there's a lot of other little things that you don't see. It's not just the main accident. There's other things that happened in the Marine Corps that that were terrible. That I remember, but so it's just dig within yourself to find what you can do to stay ahead, to be positive, to look at and know that the Lord is there. You know, it's like I don't not think about God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit or what I can do or plan on, or where can I get that help? How can I how can I hopefully depend on that? But I have the faith that he's with me all the time. So that and I've said that before, you didn't get as old as you are in in in a week. It took several years. Same with me. And so I think that you grow in your in your you have a growth and understanding constantly.

As we get rid of then here, can you give my audience one word of inspiration?

Probably give two or three words, but you know, I talk too much sometimes, but I uh I mean I just you know, people that are listening, you gotta understand that you're you're you're here for a purpose. Don't ever forget that. That that God's got you here for a purpose. And and that purpose is gonna change. I've I thought I I always wonder what what am I gonna do? What am I how can I help? What but that changes throughout life, along with your along with your body, along with your age, along with your intelligence, your your your your faith. But you know, we're all here for that reason. I I would also say it's always too soon to quit. Never quit trying. Always believe, always keep going, and then the last but not least is uh a saying is and I don't recall who supposedly said it, I don't know that he did, but this is a very basic thing is that is what lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are very small matters compared to what lies within us. So you take what you've learned, what you've been through, apply it to the future, but it lays within you. It lays within you to to move ahead and accept that. Yeah. And I that's the big thing.

Okay, thank you coming for coming on the show today. We greatly appreciate having you.

Well, it's good to be here. I know we've we kind of had to go through it a few times to get it, but hey, you know, it's just like life. You gotta keep battling. You you can't give up. It's it's uh you know, just you know, and if something makes you mad, so be it. Maybe maybe that's what God's calling you for. Is today I'm not in a good mood and I've gotta go out and fight to get ahead. So but no. Everybody, you know, I uh God bless everybody and and and just have have the faith. Keep the faith, so to speak.

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